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GreginOz

Wait a minute. This Pig got young, pimple faced kids to score E & pot for her? So, these non-crims contacted crims & did a drug deal for some pussy? Did these young innocents then TRY the drugs? Did her actions INTRODUCE these kids to drugs? Do these children have a Pig to thank for their FIRST TRY OF DRUGS? Are these kids now on the SLIPPERY SLOPE to drug use because a Police Officer got them to score for her? Are the Police now the GATEWAy to drugs for young Americans? GeeZeus!

Martin Owens

Only to be expected, really.

Cops are , at bottom, public employees, which means bureacrats. And bureacrats, since they produce nothing, desire proof of "productivity" above all things. And what is 'productivity' for cops? Numbers of arrests.

And don't forget, there is now huge competition for the available crooks! FBI, DEA, state cops , local cops, ATF, DHS, border patrol, Fish and Game, the PTA playground patrols are slated to get tanks and helicopters soon ... so inevitably the pressure is on to find new sources of criminals, the indispensable raw material of the law enforcement industry. And if creating a few is what's needed, hey, you can't ask for more budget money if you can't ' prove' there's a huge "problem." Numbers, my boy, it's all in the numbers!

Enticement? that's nothing. Wait until, like Stalin's KGB, they start grabbing people at random to make up the month's quota

failureman

"Cops are , at bottom, public employees, which means bureacrats. And bureacrats, since they produce nothing, desire proof of "productivity" above all things. And what is 'productivity' for cops? Numbers of arrests. "

False Assumptions:
1) All public employees are bureacrats.
I don't think the public employee that picks up my leaves is a bureacrat.
2) Bureacrats produce nothing.
The bureacrats provide many services, similar services provided by the private sector are considered product in the economy.
3) Bureacrats desire proof of productivity above all things.
????

You may not like bureacrats, but let's at least start our arguments on logical grounds.

damaged justice

"bureacrats provide many services"

In the sense that a bull services a cow.

Martin Owens

Every public employee is a member of a bureacratic hierarchy. If that's not being a bureacrat, ( or at least aspiring to it) what is?

I repeat, they produce nothing. Not so much as a blade of grass, a stick of wood or a bolt. If you want to consider service as 'product', what service do they provide that is not, time and again, delivered more efficiently and at less cost by private industry? How often, on the other hand, are the "services" they supposedly provide valued by no one? ( I'll exempt the fire department, for instance, but what do people who work for the Departmentof Education actually do? We have a Department of Energy... How many more barrels of oil or tons of coal are available since they opened up? Ask 'em in New Orleans how much safer they all feel since the Dept of Homeland Security came along?)

To justify that existence, they are keen to quantify the results of their activities. Whether it adds up to anything useful or not. And, ( my original point) that in turn generates pressure on subordinates to do things that help build those all-important statistics. Whether that makes sense or not,
and so long as it's not the bureacracy getting hurt.

wade

May i suggest that there's another issue here that seems to have been missed. It seems like the cops in this instance were acting like cops generally do, with a few noble exceptions. What i find more disturbing here is that the schools head, or principal, or whoever is in charge, must have sanctioned this operation. That to my mind is failing in the duty of care that they have to the children at their school.
Say a rottweiler bit a kid in a schoolplayground - it's not really the dogs fault, but the idiot who let the dog in school in the first place.

Deoxy

Isn't that entrapment? The police spcifically asking you to do something illegal...

bob

It sounds like entrapment to me, but the police would argue otherwise. It also sounds like solicitation of prostitution and attempted statutory rape, as the adult may have been offering sex to a minor in return for compensation.

It bad enough that as a result of this insane prohibition, kids find it easier to score herb and coke than cigs or beer, and even worse that police consipre to exploit kid's hormonal vulnerabilities in an effort to say that they're winning the war on drugs (fat chance.)

This is child abuse. It's just that simple.

Russ

The cops, like Eichmann, are only following orders.

Rover Random

That's just sick. Plain and simple those people are demented and should be shot. These sick fucks are definitely corrupted by their power. I wish the worst to befall them and their loved ones.

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