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dave

Poor Shiela Kuehl, If she wasn't a lesbian I guess she just wouldn't exist! Unless her district is 100% homosexual I wonder how this is playing there? Sounds to me a little like malfeasance....using the office to promote her own worldview. I wonder how many historical figures she plans on outing?

me

"having a future time orientation"

What in heaven's name does that mean?

Rogier

>>What in heaven's name does that mean?<<

I've been beating up my brain over the same thing. Anyone know?

dave

Re: "Having a future time orientation"

Apparently we pale folk with our compulsion for plans and schedules have been keepin the brother down...."future time orientation" here contrasted with the idea of "living in the moment".

I'm far more troubled by the statement, "emphasizing individualism as opposed to a more collective ideology". Jeez, just come right out and say you're collectivists!

Brian

I think what the document means to imply is that valuing the possibilities and potential of the future in turn devalues those who find meaning in their roots, in their family history and whatnot.

In other words, white people look to the future, black people look to the past?

Ridiculous.

GreginOz

Well, guess I'm a rascist! Damn, "future time preference" is a problem? Huh? You mean poor, dumb fucks who can't plan or save for the future, who must gain immediate gratification...are suppposed to be MY equal???HAHAHAHAHAHaaa, I don't think so! Collective Ideology??? Give me my gun... And this "one form of English...is rascist?" Errr, no, IT IS CALLED ENGLISH, not Rapsta grunt. No child left behind...a desk?

jake

I don't think they are saying that HAVING future time orientation (fto) is racist. I think they are saying that the assertion that someone is inferior because they DON'T HAVE such time orientation is racist.

A concrete example might be: native americans may be considered inferior because they don't think about the future in the same way as white americans do, i.e traditionally native americans are present time oriented rather than future time oriented. Time orientation affects our thoughts and behaviour, but is a cultural attribute, not a racial one as it is percieved.

Another example might a kid from an underpriveledged background (the majority of underpriveledged kids are from ethnic families) might be considered stupid/lazy/uninterested by his/her school teachers because he/she tends to live in the "now" and not think about the future. In reality though, the nature of the kids life, i.e severe financial restrictions means that thinking about the long term future (which requires an element of financial stabililty) seems at best difficult, at worst futile. So his/her thoughts and behaviour are present time oriented. Rather than understanding
that, a teacher could easily attribute this "attitude" to race rather than social background.

I think that's what the Seattle Public Schools board is trying to get at. It's not how WE think that is racist, it's what we assume about how OTHERS think that can amount to racism.

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