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Michael Chaney

"Freedom of expression does not mean the right to offend."

By that definition, people in Cuba have full freedom of expression. I would argue that the only expression that even requires protection is that which offends somebody.

jhc

Yep. The quoted responses by the Dutch government don't do much to inspire hope. But that said, here are a few other comments on this story.

First, there seems to be a serious shortage of White Hats in this story. E.g.: "In parliament he [Wilders] then called for the Koran and Hitler's Mein Kampf to be banned, a proposal that was rejected." This doesn't exactly make Mr. Wilders a poster boy for freedom of speech, I'm thinking.

Second, even though the politicians are being fairly craven about this, I didn't read that any of them were threatening to suppress it. At worst, they were 'hoping' it wouldn't be aired. You can find craven politicians in every nation on the globe. I doubt the Dutch have a monopoly in this area.

Third, I found this report a little odd. "From her self-imposed exile in Washington, Hirsi Ali last week criticised the new film as 'provocation' and called on the major Dutch political parties to restart a debate on immigration [...], rather than leave the field to extremists." Maybe Ms. Hirsi Ali knows something about Mr. Wilders (and the situation) that we should know?

Finally, I have to admire the spunk of the Dutch who continue to bring this issue into the news. Admirable work.

Martin Owens


It is not about who has the right to be offended, but who has the right to punish.
People these days can say any sort of nasty thing about Christianity ( and many do), but no one seriously backs the right of Christians to lynch the speakers as punishment for offending Christian sensibilities.

Why do our ruling classes and parasite intelligentsia maintain a complicit silence when genuine threats of war and murder are made?

They are bold enough to shriek meaningless accusations of " fascist" and "genocide" in a nice , safe parliamentary, free-press setting where they know there will be no consequences.

But as soon as the knives are out for real, when it's plain that we're dealing with real life killers who mean to hurt you if you stand up to them, all of a sudden the " speak the truth to power" crowd is nowhere to be found.

So I guess the thing to do is become a bloodthirsty brute without a conscience.

The people who consider themselves the West's moral arbiters will do just what you want and swear you were right all along.

Douglas Black

"Islam is a religion of peace. I know this because I study the Koran constantly." --GWB

George Arndt

You can't have it both ways. Freedom of speech can't exist without the right to offend. If Muslims don't like something they see or hear no one's going to stop them from saying so. We need more speech overall, not less.

Almost everyone is offended by something, regardless how “sensitive” we might try to be.

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