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Cynical prof

Walters would probably say you can't make an omelet without breaking eggs.

Hunter

Yeah, people frequently turn to trite little phrases like that when they're not able to sufficiently defend their beliefs and positions. It makes people look smarter, see?

Hermes Ten

I think you're giving Walters too much credit in that you suggest, at least tacitly, that his actions are the product of an intent to eliminate opium production. I think what is really happening is that Mr. Walters is interested in eliminating just some opium production --stopping unfavored producers so that the guys on "our side" can make a bigger buck.

The US government is the world's No.1 drug trafficker. Being able to grow and export opium is a reward granted by the US government to those providing us with "indispensable services." And drug sales in general are a wonderful way to finance "Black" and other covert ops. But in order to maximize the revenue from these sales you have to control the supply as much as possible.

Windypundit

I recently blogged an opinion piece in which I said the War On Drugs was "as evil as witch burnings and slavery and Kristallnacht."

This story may be the first link I'll send to anyone who claims I was exaggerating.

George Arndt

Oxycontin has effects virtually identical to heroin. But, it's perfectly legal, with a prescription. In facts, a growing number of junkies are it taking instead of heroin. A growing number of youth are grinding Ritalin into powder and snorting it, instead of Cocaine. If people don’t use one way to get high, they will simply find another. (Like in “South Park” last week)

http://www.southparkstudios.com/news/3411

If the government wants to lesson drug use, they should spend money on treatment, not at a futile attempt to eliminate all drug crops.



Hermes Ten

Windy, I think you're operating off a false premise: that the government wants to reduce drug use. I think the evidence clearly shows that they don't, in fact, want to reduce drug use. They like the usage level at just about where it is right now.

The "drug war" has even greater political and economic benefits than the "GWOT." It has just about completely gutted the Constitution. It keeps lots of people employed. It keeps our prisons full of marginalized people and helps keep the "unemployment" rate down by keeping these marginalized people off the job market. It increases State power and helps instill obedience. And it's a great way of financing covert operations, rewarding friends, and punishing enemies.

smurfy

"Oxycontin[...]it's perfectly legal, with a prescription."

Less and less legal everyday. Richard Paey, Dr Rottshaefer, and now Dr. Steven Schneider.

smurfy

Also- kind of a bad time for Americans to be criticizing another nation's credit markets.

But this is a wicked way to implement price controls.

Rob Taylor

Do you guys really think that if there were opium crops there wouldn't be child brides? Really?

Weren't there stories of child brides in Afghanistan in mags like Time decades ago?

Legalization of drugs and child exploitation are two different issues. While we can argue about legalization it is bad form to say the least to imply that these girls would be treated like western women and happy if only the opium still grew free. It minimizes the sufering and plight of children being exploited by barbaric, backward cultures where little girls are seen as objects to be traded and molested.

Rogier

Rob:

Nobody's saying that, if poppies were allowed to thrive, these young girls would be treated as well as their Western counterparts. But yes, the ability to make a living with a viable cash crop would once again lift these families above subsistence levels. And yes, that would have an impact on the number of child brides.

As a rule, well-to-do Afghani families do not need to sell their children to survive.

runcible

"... collateral damage like widespread child rape among Afghanis is a small price to pay to stop Americans from getting high."

Maybe I'm just a very cold person, with a twisted sense of humor... but, I think that would make the perfect bumper sticker or T-shirt.

Sums up the insanity of the drug war perfectly, IMO.

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